aha...bet i got your attention there :)
since we've been here, we've met many people and have revolved in several social circles. at the risk of generalising, i see them in 3 very broad categories - The Have Arriveds (by their definition), The Comfortables, and *ahem*...The Strugglers (no prizes for guessing which group we are in :)). i could write a long entry on this, but i'm sure it'll be heavily censored by The Hasbern, who's always mindful of things and reminding me to 'think first' and 'not write things you'll regret'.
so, about my title. no it's not hugging and kissing of the erotic sort (sorry to disappoint :)). i'm referring to that very female ritual upon meeting/leaving people.
as kids we were trained to salam and cium tangan the elders. as you get older you do the salam to the heart thing when you meet new people, while with the elders the cium tangan part still stands. and then when i was in Darul there was this awesome sisterhood where we went a step closer and hugged and kissed. but then again i always wonder...2 or 3? then there are also friends i'm really glad to see, and with whom a bear-hug comes naturally.
when i came here, i've been in several hug-and-kiss situations. one was with a mak datin, who kissed the air behind my ears like 3 times. and then once we went for dinner with some malaysian yuppies, and upon extending my hand for the salam, i was (stiffly - me, not her) pulled for a hug-and-kiss. again...2 or 3?
and then again i've met some wonderful ladies in playgroup and mengaji, and some will pull and hug-and-kiss me, some not.
you see, i'm not a touchy-feely person. my whole family's not touchy-feely. i dread hellos and goodbyes because i have to participate in this ritual. normally i'll just stand straight and salam, and then there'll be that awkward pause where i try to gauge if the person will pull me towards her for a hug-and-kiss. and then there'll be another pause as i quickly try to guess if she'll stop at 2 or 3.
this hug-kiss thing is quite a dilemma for me. just when and with who do you do it? and who do you just hug, and who do you hug-and-kiss? and how many kisses? 2? 3? and what is it actually that you kiss? the cheeks or the air? is this a mat-salleh thing or an arab thing or an islamic thing?
it's mind-boggling, really. you can just imagine my agony as all these questions race through my mind in the above-mentioned very short awkward pause. the whole thing is very stressful for me.
can anyone help provide me with clear guidelines and help end my misery?
its a sister hood thing maybe. and you can just tell by the person if you can hug and kis them or a salam will do. i guess it just the air ppl give la.. and for all you know, those who pulled you to hug and kiss wld also be liek wondering, how? 2 or 3? Oh lets just go for three! or "kiss or no kiss? ala lets just kiss the air to be safe"
ReplyDeletehaha
i told you it's mind-boggling! haha!
ReplyDeletemy mamma is just like you aunty khalidah, hugs n kisses reserved for loved ones & close friends only.. it can get uncomfortable ehh but after a while you will know who are the people who loves to hug&kiss and who are not . I think just kissing cheek to cheek will do.. I'd rather not leave bright red lipstick stain on their cheek.
ReplyDeletehee hee hee...thanks for the tip, alya. which reminds me, ilhan wipes his cheeks furiously each time he is kissed by someone other than his parents...haha
ReplyDeleteSalams chickie babe!
ReplyDeleteI was exactly like that! When we used to live in Rockingham, we were surrounded by many Malays, they don't do it. Many in Singapore don't do it. When we moved up to Cannington, we started to meet many new Muslim friends from many different races. And so the sisterhood began.
Some people do it and some people don't. If you're not into it, and the other person is, they will pull you in, if you are into it and the other person is not, you pull them in. Geddit?
It's so awkward when you don't know what to do. Once you start to know the people, you will know who gives a hug and a kiss and who doesn't. It takes time to figure it out. Really it does. You're not alone lah!
Here's some supporting evidence for you... :o)
"When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally. Certainly, Allaah is Ever a Careful Account Taker of all things." [al-Nisa'4:86]
And...
And it was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "You will not enter Paradise until you (truly) believe, and you will not (truly) believe until you love one another. Shall I not tell you something which, if you do it, you will love one another? Spread the greeting of salaam amongst yourselves."
Narrated by Muslim, 54.
Don't worry, meeting the sisters here is just like this HUGE gush of wind, I never expected any group to be so darn loving. Freaking scary ey? Can you believe that I'm not the kiss, kiss, hug, hug kinda gal either?
Work out which one you are...(don't worry, you'll soon work out that you are one, because everyone else does it). tehehe.
There is no harm in doing so. It is a fellow sister in Islam and it creates that "sisterhood".
I did, however, see you scrunch up your face last week kissing someone. lol. I already knew something was up last week. haha. Funny you mentioned it.
Give it a few months, you'll get over it and become a hugger and a kisser. When you go back to Singapore, it's back to hand salams though!
thither, just don't bathe or brush your teeth for 3 days. mesti they won't wanna hug or kiss ya!
ReplyDeleteya, tell me abt it, i need enlightenment too abt this kiss kiss hug hug thingie. If i remembered correctly, once upon a time, someone told me that if muslim women kiss kiss, they will start with the right cheek then left, but because they want to end on the right note, i guess they do the 3 on the right cheek again. please dont quote me on this, im not certain abt its validity. I guess if the person is just being social and not comfortable abt touching the cheeks, they will just kiss the air, bcos i will do that too, if i'm being pulled....
ReplyDeleteoh god..you saw that? *giggles* you know what i mean, right, like in a group of pre-existing relationships everyone does it and then being new in the group you don't know if you should pull or be pulled. so you hug-kiss Person 1 and then assume you do the same to Person 2, and then realise Person 2 is stiff but alamak-just-do-it-anyway-lah, you know what i mean?
ReplyDeletehahahha..someone should write a thesis on this!
and thanks for the hadiths :) plus you won the award for Multiply's Longest Reply :)
have a safe journey tonight babe, and thanks for introducing this Nando's-virgin to a halal Nando's outlet. the extra-hot Peri-Peri sauce left me with Angelina Jolie lips after that...hahaha!
eeeeyew!! gross!! i want a way around this, not be a social outcast :P
ReplyDeletenice to know i'm not the only with this 'issue', maria :) yeah the start-with-the-right makes sense, it's a sunnah kan. i notice the air-kisses are usually of the Datin-variety..hee hee :)
ReplyDeletemuhahaha... baru aku nak cakap. the i dun want to touch your face but i have to do it anyway syndrom kekeke
ReplyDeletewouldn't it suck if someone had super bad acne. Oh Mi Gawd! lol
ReplyDeletei am SOOOO in love wif Nando's....!!! part leceh nak kena gi kay el baru bley makan.... hmmm... *chillis-totally-sidetracked-as-she-hasn't-any-comment-on-this-kissy-stuff*
ReplyDelete#p.s. if i remember correctly i've never seen my ustazah did the kissy-huggy thingies to each other...or maybe they did in the staff room...who knows..
definitely sisterhood.
ReplyDeleteI'd go with the flow.
I love it when sisters I know well ...
btw, my husbern also censors me lah.
got to say he is the one with the sensible head and I am the EMO one.
hehehe this is so funny... i was trying to figure out where in the world the word Nandos mentioned by Cake.. Chillis ngigau eh?
ReplyDeleteit's in my reply to suraya lah...really, alhamdullillah for that halal Nando's outlet cos we've been having the KFC-blues.
ReplyDeletekfc? kfc? KFC can bite Nando's dust...or in their case, Nando's crust...hehe.. tapi kalau dah gian nak makan ayam, kfc, pon kfc jugaklaar..
ReplyDeleteOMG! I just had NANDO's AGAINNNNNNNNNNN here in Melacca. It's like the 3rd time in a 3 week period. Am I bad or AM I BAD?!
ReplyDeletedat does it...i'm gonna have to go up kay el very very very soon....
ReplyDeletehahaa..mind boggling huh! from what i observe here,it's three air kisses on the right cheek. but our 'groupies' wld usually go for the right,left,right. which is which? i dont know either. i'm juz going with the flow,too.. ;)
ReplyDeletewould do it only if the person really means something to me...its just not our culture, is it not?
ReplyDeletehi khalidah...nk mintak izin dulu sebab u tk kenal kita but jus happen to cm across yr web n read yr blog....very interesting....tot i gv u sm feedback based on my personal experience.
ReplyDeletei pernah live in perth n queensland n 1 of my best buddy is a kiwi....they will hug n kiss once. kalau kat spore, normally it's only wth ppl who u r close wth....actually tis hug n kiss thing is a new 'trend'....dulu2 cukup salam aje. i think it's jus nt part of our culture here. i lived in indo for a while...nw over there, they kiss d air behind yr cheeks twice...normally rite n den left. i've known sm middle easterners as well n they do it 3 times.
abt when to do it n when not to do it depends.....u hv to c d ppl n d plc (my personal view)....but at d end of d day it's totally up to U!
i was always out of plc n don't know hw to go abt tis but nw tht i'm older i sort of noe's wht's expected. enjoy yr journey of discovery!!
mila